He did the White House and everything. And here was the street. I wanted to ask about the Equestrian Center. Burke: I was thinking about getting a big home, having a home, and what I would want in itthe paintings, what kind of furniture, carpets, everything. Burke: Im glad I did. And over the years, it became just prohibitive to try and do. The Seguine girls, as they were called,. Burke: Oh, when I was a kid, we lived in Annandale. I had the best collection of the most beautiful carved ivory and things because they didnt have money but they would give you things. And he was studying art and he painted my portrait that shell show you, thats upstairs. It was a sweet sixteen Ill never forget. And that was a kitchen, and that was bedrooms and a little living room, all up there. And then Id been in Europe all that time. I saved it years and years ago. She said, Now you can save it., And I said, Well, I can save it. But that was a condo. Burke: Oh, when I bought the house, everybody told me, Oh, what are you buying that old crap for? Well, I didnt say I bought it because I got it practically for nothing because they couldnt get rid of it. Burke is joined in this interview by his niece, Linda Daller. Daller: He enjoys the whole house. Would you? Its unreal! And I went around and we all hadyou were only allowed to buy two bottles of wine and a bottle of whiskey, or something. I did go around and take pictures of what was left of some of them. And I had beautiful big pieces of Meissen that I got when I was in Germany, and it all went here and there andI cant get it back. And I wish the hell I could have gotten a hold of that before they tore it down. One of the doors was shot, so I took this door off, and when I did, the brick wall, on the side, started falling out. I restored that, and that was an old mansionan old pillar-fronted mansionlooked like the house, similar. Frank was born in Brooklyn, NY June 26, 1943. Q: And did you keep records of the restoration process? They are Chinese Chippendale. Its going to hell. No, it wasnt that. Burke: Oh, well, look what I did. Daller: Thats been acquired over the years. That was the mansion. Because my house was right across the street from it. And it was the most amazing party. That was gorgeous. And thats what I called out for was help. So I stayed there, worked for him for years. And I took that room and made it into the dining room. Restored the building, looked around, come down, bought this house from Mrs. Seguine, and then moved out of the bar and restaurantbecause I had a room upstairs in it. Christ, a good ten, twelve years. But big stuff like couches and chairs and that kind of thing. If you give me a big helping hand here. I said, You know, I dont make that much money. Yes. And, well, lets face it, they never had any hot water over there at all. Burke: Yes. And she kept, George, please, go save my house. But the story that was cuteremember the lady in England, the antique dealer, that used to bring her bottles all the time? And my uncle came in and was part of the whole group. Its all part of history, and theyre just destroying it every way they can. Theyre all McMansions. You can go and look and read about anything about the South Shore of Staten Island. That house, it was a big French mansard, big Victorian. Youre working too hard. He also discusses the donation of the Seguine Mansion to the Historic House Trust, and his vision for the ongoing maintenance of the home and property. But, thats what I did. So I go downstairs. Q: [laughs] How did you figure out what needed to be done with the house? I was born right in the hospital across the street, and grew up 90% of my time on Staten Island until I became old enough and I joined the military. Burke: I knew that. And you would have been taxed in this country if it was already like that. And I went to Hammersmith College. Burke: It was. We just mentioned him. He come over he looked at it. Q: Was it Mario that suggested the life tenancy agreement? Its, all the numbers are accounted for. And I often wondered what happened to that brooch because I gave it to Bess. So whenever the big surgeons traveled, I always traveled with themtraveled all over Europe. And we were great gardeners and she had always come over in the spring, and she gave me little cuttings of all the flowers, and the different things. And everyone became extremely close. There was nine of us in the whole family. Copyright 1998 2023 New York Preservation Archive Project. Daller: From Michael and Jennifer, your nephew. Absolutely gorgeous. And then the people that moved out left a bunch of old furniture, and these were the two that they left. And they were going to pay for everything if they owned it. The only thing that will save this house as a bulldozer! [laughs] But anyway, I saved it. Q: And thats what allowed you to buy this house? So I said, Well, Bess, if youre interested in doing it, Im interested in doing it.. And they were good investments. Burke: What were the things I did when what? So I had people come in and wanted to buy the Tidewater Inn. Chris was the one that got involved with it. All my life, I was raised in a big house. I loved them too. Lives in Rochester, New York. But he was excellent. And that still is, today, one of the great places around here, the Old Bermuda Inn, and John still owns it. I wanted to know some more details about the life tenancy. When I was over there looking at their house. Q: And so when you were deciding what to collect, were you thinking about. Q: Yes. Its still there, the framework of it, with the brick. She had to move them to New Jersey. And so people saidthey took all the horses and they moved to New Jersey. Thats the usual setup, I think, for historic houses. So thats where I got most of the stuff thats here in the house today. Burke: Hawaii. He moved into the house shortly after the sale, and worked from the basement to the roof, and outwards throughout the grounds and stables, to complete the restoration. Burke: Yes. Too bad that there wasnt somebody with a brain. Daller: It was like, we cant even find him anymore. And as I said, for a thing of whiskey or a bottle of wine, theyd give you anything, because none of them have had it for years and years. Im always doing something. Burke: You want it from the first day I was born in the hospital across the street? The story about the coat that you had from Alaska? Developers. Burke: Her sister has it [indicating Daller]. And he and his wife, Adriana, they retired and moved to Florida. Where were you stationed and what was it like? He was born Jan. 21, 1946, in The Bronx, N.Y. Bob is survived by his loving wife. But he did a lot of the work for you. Daller: But it feels like home. I mean, I had a beautiful condo in Florida. Is there anything else that you would like to add about the house as it is now, the history, or the future of the house? Burke: So that should pretty well cover it, I think. So I just grew up with it, knowing it. 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The mansion, oh god. So I paid it off and bought it in cash, with the cash. Now theyre worth a couple hundred-dollars apiece. And through all the years that the old lady had this woman taking care of her, the lilacs were always in bloomwhen they were in bloom, they were in the house. You werent on Staten Island. George Burke is one of these dedicated keepers: He minds the Seguine Mansion, which he bought in 1981. And then when you could see the house, it was a goddamn mess. I found three things like that. Then there was the main hall that went through, just like this: door, front door, back door. So theres no more Scalamandr, I dont think, is there? Yes, and I had bought the house, but I couldnt have the house and move in until she died. Would you just sell me two acres there? Daller: And that house was beautiful. Burke: Yes, I paid off this house. And after he died the family still lived like we had my fathers money involved. And it was one of those busy, busy, goddamn nights. Burke: Yes. And he owned the funeral home. And then I shipped it all back home. And that was it. But what she did is she sold off parcel after parcel in order for her to live here in the house because she had no income. Burke: Well, look at the mansion! Interviewing George Burke, and. Okay. But, Q: Let me ask you some more about the items that you collected when you were. So we need to get help. And thats where she was. She said, You saw her in your dream. I said, Holy shit, I said, you think that was her? She said, It could have been her. I said, Then she went like that and chased me out of her house. She said, That was her. Daller: Oh, thats exactlyI mean, because that was the reason for getting a board, was to also help get things done. And we cant come over here because both of them lived way out in New Jersey, and theyd come every day. And he was stationed here, in St. George, and he would come home and wed live in the house. Theyre piled up. Burke: To put it backbecause the house was ruined, it was in terrible shape. You could imagine what the mansion looked like. The roof was shot because the old guy that was caretaker here, he used to walk around on the roof and watch all the boats in the harbor. And have something on a loop in here, which weve been trying to do, where itll be an audio and a video of him discussing the house, because nobody knows it any better than he does. Theyre getting rid of everything! He had the military ship the items back to family members in New York City, a perk of military service that made moving his collection back to the States possible. Devoted father of Matthew I. Burke, Jason L. Burke, and Georgina. So I said, The hell with this. So a couple of days later, I have a dream. I think I got the two of them for five bucks or something like that. Thats the only thing in the house left from the Seguines. Lots of photos, costs, everything. I grew up loving it and always having it, and my mother was great with it. Daller: Well, he hopes that Historic House Trust and the Parks Department work hand in hand and maintaining itthat theyll maintain it as a museum. I know the Port Richmond store you just bought. I forgottheres ten acres that is landmarked now. Burke: So then I gave it to the Historic House Trust of New York. But the one that I remember was a great big brooch. And you can put it together and fix it. Q: Can you tell me about the ghost in that house? Theres a ghost in there. And I said, Well, I dont believe in ghosts. All the way to the Great Kills Harbor. Born in the Province of Pola, Italy, "George" settled in the Bronx. Q: How did you establish a relationship with the Parks Department and the Historic House Trust? So I couldnt take any of the clothes. Would you like to elaborate on that? Phone: (718) 966 . And in the basement, I put the kitchen and a dining area and everything. And because of that, and especially the interior design thing, I went around, did little jobs, and did things, and because I learned so much by going to that to school there, that when I got back here, I got nice little jobs here and there. But they did a lot for me. Stole all that carved stuff, stole all that stuff, that whole box of stuff. Q: Right. Im getting rid of everything. He said, I have three of the most beautiful Persian carpets from Persia, said, You cant get them anymore. He said, Theyre antiques but they are brand new, never used. He said, Im giving them to you. And this is them. The beloved husband of Rosanna (Ialuna) Burke, he was the devoted father of Matthew I. Burke, Jason L. Burke, and Georgina P. Burke, all of Hull. You come out and take over the boys and mens department in the store. I said, Thats fine. But the old lady that lived there was very, very sick. Burke: Sure. They cant just say, The doors are open for anybody, just walk in! Somebody will walk in, and say, Oh, I like those chairs, pick them up, and take them, and theyll be gone. And the only problem with that was the kitchen was downstairs. But anyway, I had come back to America. I hope it isnt that the people who have access come in and empty it because Ive had people say, Oh, when youre not here, Im taking that painting, and Im taking that painting, and I want that couch, you know. Its a part of the history that should remain. Daller: Yes, I found him. Thats how I got to know Adriana Scalamandr and the Scalamandrs. Its been so long now. That place took off like you couldnt believe. It was his first time off of Staten Island. So I went around and looked and looked and I said, You know, I could open a restaurant. And I walked around and I found a couple of nice places. So itll be part of Staten Island that people, maybe fifty years from now when theres not a spot left, theyll all come out and theyll look and say, Wow, this is what it used to be.. And all those Eskimos just loved me. Oh, they loved me. Search Staten Island obituaries and condolences, hosted by Echovita.com. Was very little time on here. And underneath it was a whole kitchen and dining room that opened out to under the porch. I spent enough time breaking my back. Daller: Mm-hmm. Thats ittheres no more of them. Q: So its budgets and the contractors, all that stuff. She was a very good friend of mine, a really pretty lady. Q: Well, tell me about getting started on this house. I saved that, thats still there. They moved in there, and they lived there. Brooklyn Births: 1898-1909 Deaths: 1847-53, 1857-1948 Marriages: 1866-1949 *Pre-1898 records are for Brooklyn city only. And all this beautiful stuff, I used to put in a big box. Because I wanted the man that built the house, and this is the man that saved the house. I said, Where are you? She said, Well, I moved out years ago and went back to Georgia. He worked by himself. I dont need The Death of Cleopatra hanging above my fireplace. I was So I bought it. They even stopped you riding in the parks. And this is Sarah Dziedzic. Well, it doesnt matter, her name. And now the people that I sold it to, the Pistillis [James and Kathleen Pistilli], they had the whole thing researched and now its got landmark things on it and everything. My big old Victorian house is saved, and thats still there. They had The [Charging] Bull in the city and they had the little [Fearless] Girl there. But the picture in the locket was all crumbled up. Burke: Well, I knew how to do it. We are a big family. Burke: Well, Ill tell you, there wasnt that much in storagethe stuff that was in storage wasnt big pieces, maybe one or two. Burke: Anyway, she was well known here on Staten Island. Then, on that side, was the dining room, and the kitchen. Burke: Yes. Daller: What about the coat? Right? And that was nothing but a little house that caught firewas just a little, little house. It would have been spectacular but greed set in, and thats what they did. And also about the history of Staten Island, or the style that the house is decorated in, the Victorian style, your collection. Adriana would come out and shed say, Well, Ill tell you what, George. I think there were hundreds of people that worked there. Q: Okay. So I went up with Father Tom and I had to take care of all those Eskimos, if any of them got sick or hurt this or that. Syracuse. The stables, everything has to remain the same. Im gonna go look. Burke: Well, I hope it gets maintained. Q: The Friends of the Seguine Mansionthe friends group. And I was so damn busy, I never got to go home. I had the house put back together. Daller: Well, he said, he felt that house had spirits in it. But the only thing was it was too small. It feels like home, because thats what its been. And I never got along with her that much because everything I wanted to do, she said, No, no, no, I dont like that. Tell us about when you were born? But it looked like an attic with the roof like that and everything. George Burke. Betsy P. Thompson East Greenbush, New York. She lived up on Lighthouse Hill. Most recent obituaries in New York. And I always used to say, Wonder who lives there! and so forth and so on. Otherwise, Id never be able to have half the stuff thats in here because it would have cost me a private fortune to have it shipped. The one in particular, United States Steel [Corporation]. You couldnt see the grounds through the trees and it was just covered and everything. Q: Okay, all of that. Daller: Oh, yes. And I finally got to meet Mrs. Seguine because she had stables at that time. So it didnt matter. And then finally she sold the house and she bought a beautiful place in Greenwich Village and moved to Greenwich Village. Daller: He did the sofa upstairs as well. Daller: But he has albums upstairs, photos. But I forgot what the other two things were. And I looked back, you could hardly see the house. So it shows you that you have a friend forever. Theyre deciding they want to build, so they tear down and build. I need to get someone in to do a good cleaning on the house, someone to take care of maintaining it. Then I went looking for the big pieces. You know, nobody wanted to end it but nobody wanted to, say, Lets do it. Besides horses and Rusty, there are peacocks too. So the next day, Im up and Im outside. We were only allowed so much. So I took that out of the brick and I got some cement, put it all back in, put the wall back up. Were going to this estate. Cohasset crypto case: Everything court documents reveal. And that was inwhere the hell, what did they call that area where all the Eskimos lived? The oldwhat the hell was itgrocery store. What are we gonna do here? So he said, Well, I really love doing this, George. And I said, Okay, John, thats fine. Now what are you going to do with this? He was predeceased by his mother Lena Russo-Tredici. But some strange things did happen in the house. The front porch was up high. It was gorgeous and very ornatewas very, very much like Greek Revival. The house is haunted, she said, if youre interested in it, George, heres the key to the front door, you go. And as I said, there was a big flight of stairs that went up and a big porch across the whole front of the house. Q: Was that house that you restored in a similar condition as this house? But they are the ones thatup in arms, saying, Aww, that poor horse. Burke: She has it. And then, where they built the schoolwhat is that girls school up here? And the porch, I dont thinkone end of it, you wouldnt dare walk on because the whole thing would have collapsed. And that went for years. When I bought it, I didnt know what was that ones house. And that way, it wouldnt burn the houses down. And it was twice the size of this house. And she was living here all by herself. And then I went through floor and room after room, and took almost five years to put the house in good shape, the way you could see it. Its a beautiful house. Theyll take care of it and be able to show tours. Burke: But anyway, when my time was up in the service, they shipped me back here to, Burke: Alaska, and I stayed in Alaska. If you were at the water looking up here, you couldnt see the house. And, you know, who has that!? The orientals that originally were on the floor here, I put up in the bedrooms upstairs. So its saved forever. Burke: Well, if she left them there, she had to come back as a ghost and tell me that they were there! Like our page to stay informed about passing of a loved one in Staten Island, New York on facebook. So I figured, oh, shit. Burke: Mario Buatta and a couple of people of his friends that were just as big. While stationed in England, he studied interior design and architectural history and began to collect antiques through estate sales and flea markets, focusing on ceramics, paintings, light fixtures, and many other decorative items from the Victorian era. I said, No, no, no. But alls I know, they closed in New York and they moved out there. We have a choice in having a caretaker come in also to maintain it. Yes. So because it was done like the French did, I never had to pay tax, or only tax on a two-story house, instead of a three-story. Oh, thats right. I found a beautiful place in Tottenville and I opened it and called it the Tidewater Inn. I should really do something to save it. And it just was luck that I had just sold a real estate deal and made a lot of money. In fact, I think it was just landmarked wasnt it? The real estate lady wouldnt come in. Burke: Oh, my nephew. Eric. I didnt know they were lilacs, but I could smell something pretty. But Ive got to bring that portrait down and put it above that fireplace and get rid of that painting thats there. Burke: Of course, I come from a big house. So they. Prepare a personalized obituary for someone you loved.. Ario George Lazzari Ario George Lazzari, 82, passed away on February 26, 2023 at NYU Langone Hospital in Brooklyn, New York. And I had a beautiful restaurant and a bar connected to it. Burke: Yes, she held the mortgage on it. He had come into my room when I was not there, stole everything. . The following is a roundup of obituaries published on SILive.com. Q: What do you think the role of this house is, in this part of Staten Island? And thats what they were doing in France to keep from getting it taxed. She stated, George, I want you to save my house, and agreed to sell the house for a feasible sum in exchange for his promise to restore it. This whole corneryou could stand and see the street out there, so this whole corner was rebuilt. Come here, Marge. 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